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TAWEEZ
Apr 30, 2005 21:27:07 GMT -5
Post by Brother Andrew on Apr 30, 2005 21:27:07 GMT -5
As-Salamu Alaykum
being asked about taweez my reply would be that why do you need them when Prophet Muhammad gave us so many dua's?
looking back on the Salaf they only used taweez on children and the sick who did not have the ability to read these duas.
as for the issue of it being shirk, yes it can be if the taweez are not Quran ayahs or a special formula that the Prophet gave us, anything but is shirk.
Ibn Taymiyya (Rahim hullah) has written a whole book on how to make taweez now why would he go and do that?
Salam
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TAWEEZ
May 2, 2005 8:50:17 GMT -5
Post by May on May 2, 2005 8:50:17 GMT -5
salam alaikum..........whats taweez?
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TAWEEZ
May 2, 2005 13:07:52 GMT -5
Post by Brother Andrew on May 2, 2005 13:07:52 GMT -5
As-Salamu Alaykum and thnx for your question. Taweez are known in Sharia as written formulas that are used for protection and to heal. they are coined Amulets by some. they are permitted in three cases 1) they consist of the Qur'an or the attributes of Allah or possibly a special formula that the Prophet has given us
2) they be written in Arabic
3) and that the person who wears them has in mind that it is Allah alone that heals and protects to believe other than this is kufr and shirk.
like for example the application of supplication, if we was to believe that the supplication has power to protect and heal then it to would be shirk and kufr but to know Allah alone has power over all and only by His permission will we be protected and healed by using such methods then it is permissable.
And Allah knows best, see the translated version of Umdat us Salik pgs. 879-880, i have included this in the book section at this link:
brotherandrew.proboards22.com/index.cgi?board=books&action=display&thread=1115056114
Imam Nawawi (rahmatullah Alayhi) notes:
One may adduce as evidence for thier permissability the Hadith of 'Amr Ibn Shu'ayb, from his father, from his grandafther, that the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said:
"I seek refuge in Allah's perfect words from His wrath, the evil of His servants, the whispeered insinuations of devils, and lest they come to me."
'Abdullah Ibn Amr used to teach these words to those of his sons who had reached the age of reason, and used to write them and hang them upon those who had not.
[Imam Nawawi's al Majmu)
notice the following points from this statement of Imam Nawawi (rahmatullah alayhi)
1. "One may adduce as evidence for thier permissability the Hadith of 'Amr Ibn Shu'ayb, from his father, from his grandafther, "
so we have generation one: his grandafther, "
generation two: his father
generation three: 'Amr Ibn Shu'ayb himself
which means he falls within the Salaf, so here we have a Salafi making taweez (amulets)
secondly and this is important to know because i feel this is where ignorant Muslims are going wrong! notice that 'Amr Ibn Shu'ayb taught the words to those of his children who could reason , read , speak and so forth but yet he hung them around the necks of those of his children who couldnt!
we have alot of big baby Muslims who need to take the taweez from around their neck and memorize the Arabic contained within.
i have some more to type but for now ima get some rest
wasalams
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TAWEEZ
Jun 20, 2005 11:27:23 GMT -5
Post by Brother Andrew on Jun 20, 2005 11:27:23 GMT -5
As-Salamu Alakum
Yahya related to me from Malik that Humayd ibn Qays al-Makki said, "A man came to the Messenger of Allah, Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã with the two sons of Ja'far ibn Abi Talib. He said to their nursemaid, 'Why are they so thin?' Their nursemaid said, 'Messenger of Allah, the evil eye goes quickly to them. Nothing stops us from asking someone to make talismans (using ayats of Qur'an) for them, except that we do not know what of that would agree with you.' The Messenger of Allah, Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã, said, 'Make talismans for them. Had anything been able to precede the decree, the evil eye would precede it.' "
[In at-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah]
4 Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Sa'id from Sulayman ibn Yasar that 'Urwa ibn az-Zubayr told him that the Messenger of Allah, Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã, entered the house of Umm Salama, the wife of the Prophet, Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã. There was a child weeping in the house, and they said that it was from the evil eye. 'Urwa said, "The Messenger of Allah, Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã, said, 'Why do you not find someone to make a talisman to protect him from the evil eye?' "
[Bukhari and Muslim]
Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from Sulayman ibn Yasar that Urwa ibn az-Zubayr told him that the Messenger of Allah, Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã, entered the house of Umm Salama, the wife of the Prophet, Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã. There was a child weeping in the house, and they told him that it was from the evil eye. Urwa said, "The Messenger of Allah, Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã, 'Why do you not find someone to make a talisman to protect it from the evil eye?' " (al Mutawatta 50:4)
Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from Amra bint Abd ar-Rahman that Abu Bakr as-Siddiq visited A'isha while she had a complaint and a jewish woman was writing a talisman for her. Abu Bakr said, "Write it for her from the Book of Allah." (al Mutawatta Hadith 50:11)
and keep in mind Imam Malik only used Sahih Hadiths for his collection.
Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Abdullah ibn Umar cauterized for the palsy and he had a talisman made for a scorpion sting. (al Mutawatta 50:14)
In Kitab ul Tawheed we find:
It is reported on the authority of Husain Ibn `Abdul-Rahmaan that he said: "I was with Sa'eed Ibn Jubair and he asked: "Who among you saw the shooting star last night?" I answered: "I saw it," and I explained to him that I had not been at prayer, because I had been stung (by a scorpion). He asked: "Then what did you do?" "I used a ruqyah," I replied. He said: "What made you do that?" I answered: "A Hadith I heard from Ash-Sh'abi." He asked: "What did he tell you?" I said: "He reported from Buraidah Al-Husayyib, who said that ruqyah is not permitted except in two cases: "Al-'ain and stings."
And Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab comments on this:
Husain Ibn `Abdul-Rahman (ra ) informs us of a discussion which took place between him and the Tabi'i,5 Sa'eed Ibn Jubair, concerning the use of ruqyah, due to the fact that Husain had been stung by a scorpion, for which he resorted to a ruqyah, in accordance with the Sunnah. When Sa'eed asked him for a proof for that, he informed him of the Hadith of Ash-Sh'abi which permits the use of ruqyah for the treatment of al-'ain and stings. Sa'eed praised him for his adherence to the Hadith...
and Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab also permits it when he says:
The permissibility of using ruqyah for al-'ain and stings, on condition that the ruqyah is of a kind endorsed by the Shari'ah - from the Qur'an or the authentic supplications of the Prophet Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã in the Arabic language.
(Kitab ul Tawheed Chapter One Whoever Fulfilled the Requirements of Tawheed Will Enter Paradise Without a Reckoning)
Narrated 'AishaThe ProphetÕáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã ordered me or somebody else to do Ruqya (if there was danger) from an evil eye. (Bukhari 7:634)
Narrated Um Salamathat the Prophet Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã saw in her house a girl whose face had a black spot. He said. "She is under the effect of an evil eye; so treat her with a Ruqya." (Bukhari 7:635)
Plus Qadi Iyad in his Ash Shifaa says that 'Ibn Ihsaq related that the Messeneger of Allah Õáí Çááøå Úáíå æÓáã used to have a talisman against the evil eye before revelation descended on him (Ash shifaa page 284)
Wasalams
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TAWEEZ
Jun 20, 2005 13:03:34 GMT -5
Post by Salam on Jun 20, 2005 13:03:34 GMT -5
errrr... i think it's like hijab, sister may.... but as far as i know, having hijab is haram and forbidden
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TAWEEZ
Jun 20, 2005 23:54:34 GMT -5
Post by Brother Andrew on Jun 20, 2005 23:54:34 GMT -5
you really know how to hint ...subhan-Allah, o.k you want the female section back up , no probs.
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TAWEEZ
Jun 21, 2005 5:57:22 GMT -5
Post by Salam on Jun 21, 2005 5:57:22 GMT -5
i didn't mean the hijab u know (headscarf) but something else that is forbidden in islam and have to do with black magic and jinn (i think)
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TAWEEZ
Jun 21, 2005 9:22:23 GMT -5
Post by Brother Andrew on Jun 21, 2005 9:22:23 GMT -5
As-Salamu alaykum
Hijab means veil, to cover and so forth whereas what i think you are refering to good luck charms are forbidden and shirk, but verses of the Qur'an and so forth inscribed on things and worn in the same manner as amaulets are not shirk, thats if you believe Allah has the power to benifit and to harm and no one else or nothing else for that matter, it is intresting to note that Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab permitted them in certain circumstances.
Wasalams
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